{"id":1357,"date":"2022-11-09T08:29:36","date_gmt":"2022-11-09T13:29:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/?p=1357"},"modified":"2022-11-14T08:10:05","modified_gmt":"2022-11-14T13:10:05","slug":"sales-advice-bath-remodeling-bad-prospects-customers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/2022\/11\/sales-advice-bath-remodeling-bad-prospects-customers\/","title":{"rendered":"15 Tell-Tale Signs to Avoid the Bathroom Remodeling Prospect (or customer) from HELL"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There were signs things were \u2018off\u2019 from the beginning. As you look back now, the clues you had a P.I.A. customer were apparent as early as your initial phone call and design appointment. Sure \u2013 these people are difficult (you said to yourself), but it\u2019ll get better once I\u2019m on the job.<\/p><p>And now in hindsight, you know you COULDN\u2019T have been more wrong! And while you\u2019re sucking it up and trying to get through this job without losing your shirt (and other articles of clothing as well), you sure as heck don\u2019t want to go down this \u2018bathroom-remodeling-prospect-from-hell\u2019 road again. But how can you steer clear of difficult customers?<\/p><p>First, you need to know the tell-tale signs. Then you need to know when to \u2018hold them and when to fold them.\u2019 You need to identify a difficult prospect BEFORE they become the \u2018never-ending-pain-in-the-rear customer.\u2019 You need to know when you MUST go \u2018Gingerbread Man\u2019 on a prospect and \u2018run, run, run as fast as you can\u2019 away from doing business with them.<\/p><p>In this article I\u2019ll identify 15 tell-tale signs to know when it\u2019s smarter to leave a prospect in the \u2018very capable\u2019 (Ok \u2013 I\u2019m coughing and being sarcastic here) hands of your most cut-throat competitor. Let\u2019s check out these warning signs so you can \u2018get out alive\u2019 while your margins (and precious few available labor hours) are still intact.<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #1 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They want you to itemize EVERYTHING! <\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>When you\u2019re looking to buy a car will your sales rep itemize the cost of the seat belts, trunk latch or interior carpet? Absolutely not. They don\u2019t have this information, and besides car dealers know it\u2019ll become harder to complete a sale if they did share these details with you if they had them.<\/p><p>And the same situation would be true for a bathroom remodeling project. When you go down the slippery slope of itemizing building material and labor costs it\u2019ll only lead to the prospect saying, \u201cHey, I can buy that (or install that) much cheaper!\u201d And while you may sarcastically want to say go ahead and do that, it\u2019s not going to be an argument you\u2019ll win.<\/p><p>Just remember this \u2013 at a minimum, minimize itemizing material and labor costs.<br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-1-itemized-bathroom-remodel-estimate.jpg\" alt=\"Remodeling project series 2 | Innovate Building Solutions #BathroomRemodel #ShowerRemodel #BathroomMakeover\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-1-itemized-bathroom-remodel-estimate.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-1-itemized-bathroom-remodel-estimate-768x511.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #2 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They want to \u2018help\u2019 you do the job to save a few bucks. \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>Think about this. Have you ever hired a new field employee (or new employee in any role for that matter) and they were \u2018highly productive\u2019 on their first day? OK \u2013 I\u2019ll answer this for you \u2013 that\u2019d be NEVER! So, what makes you think your prospective customer is going to change this \u2018new employee productivity reality?\u2019<\/p><p>This \u2018labor for a lower price deal\u2019 with a customer won\u2019t end well. Avoid it like COVID.<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #3 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They want you to bid \u2018labor only.\u2019 They will shop (and provide) the materials. \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>This is a sure way to go out of business in a jiffy. When you (and your team) are reduced to being \u2018hourly employees\u2019 by your customer what\u2019s the likelihood they\u2019ll want to pay for the following expenses:<\/p><ul><li>Your time to and from the job<\/li><li>Your cost of tools and tooling which needs to be replaced<\/li><li>Your gas cost and wear and tear on your truck.<\/li><\/ul><p>And if wrapping all remodeling expenses into your \u2018hourly charge\u2019 wasn\u2019t difficult enough, then you \u2018get to\u2019 (more sarcasm for you) to install the (really, really) cheap parts they picked up at the home center store to save a few bucks. Can\u2019t you just see the frustrations mounting as you work with bottom-of-the-barrel products which are harder to install?<\/p><p>These \u2018labor only\u2019 contracts are a slippery slope which\u2019ll have you crashing into a brick wall of unprofitability at the end.<br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-3-contractor-working-on-a-bathroom-.jpg\" alt=\"Install ceramic tiles | Innovate Building Solutions #LaminateWallPanels #ShowerWallPanels #ShowerBases\" width=\"900\" height=\"612\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1370\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-3-contractor-working-on-a-bathroom-.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-3-contractor-working-on-a-bathroom--768x522.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><br \/><br \/><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/become-a-dealer\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/Join-Our-Community-IBB-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"393\" height=\"131\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1295\" \/><\/a><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #4 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They tell you they could DIY this job, but they\u2019re just too busy now<\/em> <\/strong><\/h2><p>When a prospect tells you they are capable of DIY\u2019ing the job, what they\u2019re effectively saying is \u2018my skills are as good as your skills\u2019 and if you don\u2019t give me a low, low bid I WILL DIY the job. This is not a good sign they\u2019ll want to pay you a going rate for your services. In addition, this could also be an omen they DO NOT think your work is as good as what they\u2019d do themselves.<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #5 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>You get a \u2018behind the curtains\u2019 view of a marriage (or partnership) Gone Wild<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>Have you been on a bathroom design appointment and the husband and wife (or partners) can\u2019t agree on ANYTHING! And to make matters worse, each one is separately pulling you aside letting you know their partner is crazy and doesn\u2019t know WHAT they\u2019re talking about.<\/p><p>Unless you fancy yourself as a \u2018Junior Psychologist\u2019 AND have time to give free relationship advice, getting in the middle of \u2018waring factions\u2019 is NOT the recipe for a profitable remodeling job.<\/p><p>When you see \u2018smoke\u2019 in the relationship, there\u2019s bound to be \u2018fire,\u2019 when the job is underway. In addition, if anything doesn\u2019t go well, you\u2019ll likely be \u2018scorched\u2019 in the process. Leave the crabby couple to your competitor. \u00a0<br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-5-older-couple-fighting-over-a-bathroom-remodeling-project.jpg\" alt=\"sign 5 older couple fighting over a bathroom remodeling project | Innovate Building Solutions #ShowerPans #ShowerGlassDoors #GlassBlockShowerEnclosures\" width=\"900\" height=\"751\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1371\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-5-older-couple-fighting-over-a-bathroom-remodeling-project.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-5-older-couple-fighting-over-a-bathroom-remodeling-project-768x641.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #6 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>I\u2019ve got a \u2018brother in law\u2019 who I\u2019d like to work on the job<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>So, once again your prospect has a \u2018brilliant\u2019 idea to save a few bucks. They want YOU to hire their brother in law who is a \u2018great\u2019 plumber, electrician (or you name the trade here). And while their brother-in-law might be God\u2019s gift to the trades, you don\u2019t know IF they\u2019re any good or IF they\u2019ll throw off your schedule or IF they\u2019ll use quality materials so you can avoid call-backs.<\/p><p>Don\u2019t be forced to use a sub trade you\u2019re not familiar with. If you\u2019re the general contractor on the job, insist you\u2019re the general contractor on the job and will pick your team to do the work.<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #7 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They tell you, \u201cI\u2019m not giving you a deposit. I\u2019ve been burned before.\u201d <\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-7-bad-cash-flow-remodeling-jobs-with-no-deposit.jpg\" alt=\"sign 7 bad cash flow remodeling jobs with no deposit | Innovate Building Solutions #RemodelingProjects #Remodel #BathroomRemodel\" width=\"900\" height=\"632\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1372\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-7-bad-cash-flow-remodeling-jobs-with-no-deposit.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-7-bad-cash-flow-remodeling-jobs-with-no-deposit-768x539.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><br \/>You need money to pay for materials and labor. And just because your prospect\u2019s been burned in the past by contractors who took their money, doesn\u2019t mean this is the way you run your business. You own a reputable company. \u00a0<\/p><p>As you know, to have stable material supplies and \u2018hard-to-find\u2019 qualified contractors the \u2018price of admission\u2019 (at a minimum) is prompt payment. If you have one large job where the \u2018flow of funds\u2019 isn\u2019t flowing, you could end up with a cash flow problem which could stop all your projects dead in their tracks.<\/p><p>State your payment policies up front. Stick with them. Cash flow problems can be disastrous. Remember \u2018Cash is King\u2019 and if you don\u2019t have any, you\u2019ll become the \u2018Court Jester.\u2019<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #8 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They demand unrealistic guarantees and have unrealistic expectations \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>It\u2019s understandable why your prospect wants long guarantees. When a product (or installation) fails, and as an owner they have no recourse, they\u2019re left \u2018holding the bag\u2019 (AND paying the bill).<\/p><p>So, when your prospect said they wanted a 10 year guarantee on a grouted tile shower, you knew you had a problem on your hands. And when you even recommended a stylish <a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/product\/laminate-diy-shower-bathroom-wall-panels\/\">grout free wall panel system<\/a> (with a lifetime guarantee) like you\u2019ll below, and they weren\u2019t open to that, you didn\u2019t know where to turn.<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/product\/laminate-diy-shower-bathroom-wall-panels\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-8-laminate-wall-panels-in-a-bath-remodel-innovate-building-solutions.png\" alt=\"Sign 8 laminate wall panels in a bath remodel innovate building solutions #LaminateWallPanels #TileNoTile #ShowerWalls\" width=\"900\" height=\"1200\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1373\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-8-laminate-wall-panels-in-a-bath-remodel-innovate-building-solutions.png 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-8-laminate-wall-panels-in-a-bath-remodel-innovate-building-solutions-675x900.png 675w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-8-laminate-wall-panels-in-a-bath-remodel-innovate-building-solutions-768x1024.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><\/p><p>If you can\u2019t \u2018reason\u2019 with a prospect it\u2019s time to move on before you become a victim of unrealistic expectations.<br \/><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/waterproof-wall-panels-free-samples\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/Request-Free-Samples.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"411\" height=\"137\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1298\" \/><\/a><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #9 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>Your prospect\u2019s name should be Ornery Oscar or Hellacious Helen<\/em> \u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/h2><p>Have you ever met a prospect who is downright rude? They don\u2019t have anything good to say about the neighbors, their family, past contractors, you name it. They\u2019re nasty.<\/p><p>And while there are times you can find a \u2018nice person\u2019 behind this wall of nastiness, you need to proceed with caution if you meet someone who isn\u2019t nice (or worse yet, makes your hair stand on end).<\/p><p>When it comes to bath remodeling projects (especially longer design\/build projects) you\u2019re entering a long-term relationship. If your gut is telling you something doesn\u2019t feel right, you need to listen to it. Just like on \u2018dating apps,\u2019 you need to be careful who you \u2018hook up\u2019 with.<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #10 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They have no time for you OR for this project<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>Has a prospect made you feel you\u2019re a nuisance and their bathroom project is not something they want to invest their time in? Then after they \u2018reluctantly\u2019 provide you with the minimum input they can get away with to help you quote the job they\u2019re unwilling to allocate time in person (or via Zoom) for you to share your quote and design. Of course, they are willing to have you \u2018email the quote to them\u2019 and they\u2019ll \u2018get back to you.\u2019<br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-10-person-with-no-time-to-spend-on-remodeling-design-or-estimate.jpg\" alt=\"Impatient businessman snorting while watching his watch | Innovate Building Solutions #RemodelingProject #RemodelingDesign #BathroomDesign\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-10-person-with-no-time-to-spend-on-remodeling-design-or-estimate.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-10-person-with-no-time-to-spend-on-remodeling-design-or-estimate-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/p><p>If someone isn\u2019t willing to allocate time for your quote, you won\u2019t have any chance of them understanding the value or quality of your services. With this prospect you\u2019re likely \u2018spinning your wheels\u2019 as they\u2019re diminishing you to an unpaid \u2018quoting service.\u2019 They\u2019ll use you, never to be heard from again (unless you\u2019re the low bidder).<\/p><p>If they\u2019re too busy for you during the quoting process, imagine how they\u2019ll treat you (if they actually contract the job) if you hit an unexpected snag during the job. \u00a0<strong>\u00a0<br \/><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/become-a-dealer\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/Join-Our-Community-IBB-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"345\" height=\"115\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1295\" \/><\/a><br \/><\/strong><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #11 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>When you find out they must talk to Mom, Dad, Uncle Louie, or Aunt Bessie who is funding the project<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>Everything was going so well. This young couple was ecstatic with your ideas and vision for their bath remodel. You delivered your design and price. You thought they were signing the contract\u2026. until they said one thing.<\/p><p><em>\u201cI\u2019ll need to talk to mom and dad who are paying for this project, then I\u2019ll get back with you.\u201d<\/em><\/p><p>And at this moment you figured out the \u2018buyers\u2019 weren\u2019t the buyers you thought they were.<\/p><p>And while all isn\u2019t lost, the wants\/desires and needs of the \u2018economic buyer\u2019 (\u2018er this is the person(s) ponying up the bucks) aren\u2019t the same as the happy-go-lucky couple you\u2019ve been working with thus far.<\/p><p>At this point, realize you need to get to know the economic buyer as much so (if even more) than the people you\u2019ve been pitching thus far.<\/p><p>Basically you \u2018cannot pass go \u2013 or collect $200 (or whatever the value of your deposit check is)\u2019 \u2013 until the economic buyers accept your ideas and proposal. <em>\u00a0<br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-11-wont-collect-deposit-until-bathroom-remodeling-economic-buyers-accept.jpg\" alt=\"Sign 11 wont collect deposit until bathroom remodeling economic buyers accept | Innovate Building Solutions #Remodel #CustomDesign #Bathroom\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-11-wont-collect-deposit-until-bathroom-remodeling-economic-buyers-accept.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Sign-11-wont-collect-deposit-until-bathroom-remodeling-economic-buyers-accept-768x511.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><br \/><\/em><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #12 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>The \u2018Scenarios-R-Us\u2019 Prospect<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>So, not sure what a \u2018Scenarios-R-Us\u2019 prospect is? Well, I\u2019ll bet you\u2019ve encountered them many times before, you just didn\u2019t have a name for them. So \u2013 let me introduce them to you.<\/p><p>These are the prospects who want you to quote \u2018multiple scenarios.\u2019 They\u2019ll ask you; can you price the job with this, without that. Their options and exclusions go on and on and on (and yes, I\u2019m being redundant on purpose here).<\/p><p>The best way to work with a prospect like this is to start with a broad budget (before you allow yourself to go down the rabbit-hole and become reincarnated into a never-ending quoting machine). Then use allowances so quoting won\u2019t become a job unto itself.<\/p><p>These \u2018Scenarios-R-Us\u2019 prospects aren\u2019t necessarily bad, but they need budgeted costs to see if the bath remodel will be affordable, just let them suck up all your time in the process.<\/p><h2><strong>Sign #13 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>Your prospect needs it done ASAP and wants a \u2018penalty clause\u2019 added to the contract if the job is not completed on their proposed schedule <\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>This can be a difficult situation. You\u2019ve got an extremely motivated prospect. In fact, they\u2019re so motivated and need things done in such a tight time frame they want to sign the contract RIGHT NOW (of course they\u2019re assuming you\u2019ll accept a penalty clause if you go beyond the agreed upon date).<\/p><p>So \u2013 you start thinking of everything you can do to \u2018turn the world upside down\u2019 and make it happen. However, you know all the stars must align for you to hit their proposed date. And with a tight labor market and supply chain challenges up the wazoo, you know you\u2019d be sticking your neck out on this one. What do you do?<\/p><p>Unless you want to be completely stressed, walk from this deal (or insist the penalty clause be removed). There are simply too many uncontrollable variables which could bite you in the back end in the remodeling world we live in today.<br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-13-penalty-clause-in-a-remodeling-contract.jpg\" alt=\"sign 13 penalty clause in a remodeling contract | Innovate Building Solutions #BathroomRemodel #CustomBathroomRemodel #BathroomMakeover\" width=\"900\" height=\"647\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1376\" srcset=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-13-penalty-clause-in-a-remodeling-contract.jpg 900w, https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/sign-13-penalty-clause-in-a-remodeling-contract-768x552.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #14 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They tell you your prices are waaaay out of line<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>Here\u2019s one thing I\u2019ll be bold enough to say, if you\u2019ve never been told your prices are too high, then you\u2019re charging too little.<\/p><p>However, whenever someone tells you your prices are too high isn\u2019t always a problem \u2013 it could be a lack of communication.<\/p><p>Maybe they received lower quotes which excluded key elements for a quality bathroom or used inferior materials. When you\u2019re told your prices are out of line \u2013 it doesn\u2019t automatically mean you have a bad prospect, but it certainly does mean you need to \u2018seek understanding.\u2019 Start by asking, \u201cWhy do you say that?\u201d Then listen intently to their answer.<\/p><p>Next do your best to sell the value of your offerings (and\/or to value engineer cost out of the job which won\u2019t compromise quality). You could end up finding after they understand your value, the price doesn\u2019t seem too high. Or you could find they want a \u2018cheaper job\u2019 and the value you\u2019re putting in is something they\u2019re not willing to pay for.<\/p><p>No matter which \u2018direction\u2019 this situation takes, don\u2019t get defensive first, and ask questions later. Seek understanding. Then after restating your \u2018value\u2019 (or changing what you\u2019re putting into the project) determine if you are (or are not) a good fit. And as O.J. Simpson\u2019s lawyer Johnnie Cochran would advise, <em>\u201cIf you don\u2019t fit, you must acquit.\u201d<br \/><br \/><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/become-a-dealer\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/Join-Our-Community-IBB-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"372\" height=\"124\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1295\" \/> <\/a><\/em><\/p><h2><strong>Sign #15 you\u2019ve got a bad bathroom remodeling prospect \u2013 <em>They tell you they can do the job in \u2018X\u2019 days or less<\/em><\/strong><\/h2><p>After explaining your design and quote the prospect asks you, \u201cSo, how many days will this bathroom take?\u201d Let\u2019s say you reply, 7 days. Then they come back and say (kind of reminiscent of the old show <em>Name that Tune<\/em>) \u201cI could do that job in 4 days or less.\u201d<\/p><p>At this point you can explain your labor estimate and if they still think you\u2019re taking way too long, it\u2019s best to pack up your bags and move on. A job well done cannot be rushed. If their expectations are unrealistic, you will either need to (a) call their \u2018bluff\u2019 (and challenge them to do the job in 4 days or less) or (b) let your competitor deal with their unrealistic time expectations.<\/p><h2><strong>So, are you now better qualified to know a bad bathroom remodeling prospect when you see one? <\/strong><\/h2><p>Although I tried to write this article in a \u2018tongue and cheek\u2019 manner, I know bathroom remodeling is a bad business when you end up on the receiving end of the customer from hell. And I\u2019ve seen good contractors get \u2018slammed to the mat\u2019 when they take on difficult jobs with even more difficult customers. And more than anything, I don\u2019t want to see this happen to you.<\/p><p>And towards this end, there\u2019s 3 key things to do to not get caught up with a customer who makes your life a nightmare. They are:<\/p><ul><li><strong>#1 &#8211; Stay true to your process<\/strong> (or develop a structured process if you don\u2019t have one).<\/li><\/ul><p>&nbsp;<\/p><ul><li><strong>#2 \u2013 Know your numbers<\/strong> \u2013 Don\u2019t be swayed by customers who tell you your labor estimate or material costs are too high. Seek understanding, then explain your value.<\/li><\/ul><p>&nbsp;<\/p><ul><li><strong>#3 \u2013 Don\u2019t be steamrolled<\/strong> \u2013 Overbearing customers who \u2018convince\u2019 you to do things you\u2019re not comfortable with WILL NOT be your \u2018little fre\u2019 (as <em>Tony Montana <\/em>in the movie <em>Scarface<\/em> would say) if \u2018crap hits the fan\u2019 and the job doesn\u2019t go as planned.<\/li><\/ul><p>And while we could all value from the sage sales advice of the \u2018late great Dicky Fox from the movie <em>Jerry Maguire\u2019 <\/em>(and for fun check out some of his immortal words in the <em>YouTube <\/em>clip below) and <strong><em>\u201croll with the punches\u201d<\/em><\/strong> when things don\u2019t go our way, we also shouldn\u2019t be stupid enough to <strong><em>\u2018take all the punches\u2019<\/em><\/strong> from bad customers who are (seemingly) on a journey to make your life a living nightmare.<\/p><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"THE SECRET TO SUCCESS - Dicky Fox - Jerry Meguire\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/SyxWWYeXKBw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p><p>Thanks for reading. I\u2019d love to hear your crazy remodeling prospect or customer stories and what you\u2019ve learned from them in the comments below.<\/p><p>And if you want your remodeling jobs to go smoother with lesser labor costs (OK \u2013 this is where the self-serving pitch is located) \u2013 my company wholesales unique lines of <a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/product\/laminate-diy-shower-bathroom-wall-panels\/\">grout free wall panels<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/product\/modern-low-profile-shower-pans-bases\/\">low profile shower pans<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/product\/fleurco-glass-shower-doors-enclosures\/\">glass shower doors<\/a> and would love to help you and ask about our <a href=\"https:\/\/innovatebuildingsolutions.com\/dealers\/\">bath remodeling dealership program<\/a>.<\/p><p>And I promise you if you work with us and these products, you\u2019ll NEVER have a bad customer again\u2026. OK, I lied \u2013 Mike<\/p><p>###<\/p><p>If you\u2019d like to connect on LinkedIn, you\u2019ll find me <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mikefoti\/\">https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mikefoti\/<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There were signs things were \u2018off\u2019 from the beginning. As you look back now, the clues you had a P.I.A. customer were apparent as early as your initial phone call and design appointment. Sure \u2013 these people are difficult (you said to yourself), but it\u2019ll get better once I\u2019m on the job.And now in hindsight, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1368,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[317,331,330,325,326,329,320,318,327,328,315,316,323,324,321,322,319],"class_list":["post-1357","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-entrepreneurship","tag-bad-bath-remodeling-customers","tag-bad-remodeling-customer","tag-bad-remodeling-prospect","tag-bath-remodeling-business","tag-bath-remodeling-business-strategies","tag-bath-remodeling-contractor","tag-bath-remodeling-estimates","tag-bath-remodeling-prospects","tag-bath-remodeling-sales","tag-bath-remodeling-sales-strategies","tag-bathroom-remodelers","tag-bathroom-remodeling-advice","tag-difficult-remodeling-customers","tag-difficult-remodeling-prospects","tag-labor-only-remodeling","tag-labor-only-remodeling-contracts","tag-sales-advice-for-bathroom-remodelers"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Sales Advice for Bathroom Remodeling Contractors \u2013 Avoiding Bad Prospects and Customers \u2013 Innovate Builders Blog - Innovate Building Dealers<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Learn 15 signs to avoid bad bathroom remodeling customers who steal your profits and time. 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